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The Moon Terraformed LOLA by Ittiz The Moon Terraformed LOLA by Ittiz
New terraformed moon image based on LRO LOLA data. It's a work in progress so please give me some feed back. Please download for full res. It has approximately 35 times the detail of my last terraformed moon image. Since the moon would need 6 times the atmospheric density of Earth's atmosphere, I made it thicker and hazier.
EDIT: Thought the atmosphere was too purply, so I tuned that down. Also I didn't like the clouds so I completely reworked them.
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Hop41 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2017
One of your terraformed moons was posted to Reddit: www.reddit.com/r/space/comment…

I commented that the moon's scale height was six times that of earth's. So the atmosphere would need to be six times as thick. I see you've addressed that in this latter version. I'm still not certain you've made the atmosphere sufficiently thick. Quick Googling seems to indicate clouds get as high as 83 km. 6*83 is about 500. The visible clouds in Luna's atmosphere might lie as high as a third of the moon's radius above the surface.

My quick BOTE indicates the lunar surface is about 1/14 that of earth's. But we'd need almost 2/5 the mass of earth's atmosphere to get 1 atmosphere pressure at Luna's surface. 

So to terraform the moon we'd need to crash a huge number of volatile rich asteroids or comets into the lunar surface. If we had the wherewithal to do that, we could also build biomes from asteroidal materials. Which would give us thousands as much times as real estate.

So better to use asteroid and comet volatiles where they sit. I make a similar argument against terraforming Mars: hopsblog-hop.blogspot.com/2014…

I'm all for paraterraforming bodies like the moon or Mars. But terraforming is a waste, I believe.

Your renditions are beautiful. Wish I could be your apprentice and acquire your skills.


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Ittiz Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2017
My calculations are similar to yours.  I kinda glaze over the details but I I have to make certain assumptions to make my concepts work at a minimum.  I'm doing a Mercury image but I haven't worked out all the details of how you could terraform Mercury yet or, if you could, what it would look like.  So I haven't actually popped the images out yet.

As for the moon, consider that Titan is similar and has a surface pressure higher than that of earth.  In fact, I believe due to to the lower density, Titan has a lower surface gravity than the moon.  My expertise is in the biology field so I've come up with lots of biological/ecological solutions to these terraforming issues.  I generally prefer a non-paraterraformed solution if what I can come up with is plausible.  I've come up with an idea for a class of single-celled organisms that could potentially revolutionize environmental engineering and make terraforming fairly extreme world possible.  Maybe even tiny bodies like asteroids, or hot or cold bodies like Mercury or Calisto.

As for the 2nd link you sent me, maybe you should ask Robert Zubrin about it?  20 years ago I was similarly skeptical as you.  I sent Robert Zubrin an email and the internet was much smaller back then (it was the 90ies) so he actually wrote back refuting my opinion quite effectively.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2016
Is it possible I thought the low gravity could not hold an atmosphere?
On the other hand Titan also has one oO Can you explain when it´s possible
and when not?
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2016
I think there is some pretty convincing math that shows the Moon could hold on to an atmosphere.  However in the early solar system the solar wind was much stronger than it is today.  So any smaller bodies close to the sun (Mercury, the Moon) lost their atmospheres.  Worlds father away like Titan didn't have their atmospheres stripped away.  Now that solar wind is much weaker the moon should be able to hold an atmosphere.
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Arminius1871 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2016
Ohhhhhhh I always thought the atmospheres were gone because of the weak
gravity, so it´s the sun wind, thx for the info!^^
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MistaSilentKiller Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Is it possible to terraform the moon?
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DA-MANLY-MAN Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2015
I don't think so. Its to small
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014
Who knows for sure, I theorize it's possible.  Using the correct bioengineering to hold down the atmosphere.  Also the moon is small, so the materials that would need to be imported would be small than most other worlds.
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JaggerTheDog Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
This is amazing! 
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014
thanks
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anw-rev Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013
Does six times of Earth atmospheric density toxic to humans?
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013
Probably not, as long as most of the density was a heavy inter gas.
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anw-rev Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2013
What's the optimistic time for mankind to be able to do this? I mean, terraforming the entire Moon
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2013
I couldn't even venture a guess.  Though I think the process would take less time over all than other world due to it's smaller size and fewer resources required.  If you could smack the moon with a large cometary body you could potentially transform it very quickly.  Although that would be extremely risky for everyone on earth.
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hanciong Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think moon's gravity is not strong enough to support atmosphere?
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
Depends on the gas. O2 would probably remain naturally for at least a few millennia. I've thought of biological mechanisms that may keep keep it there over geologic time scales.
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Scifiterraformist Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2011
Astronauts from the 1960's invents a time machine and travels 2 thousand years into the future on the moon and Neil Armstrong says"I didnt know the moon will look like Earth"
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spyro10101 Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010
that kind of swirl of cluds reminds me, did you use some of venus` clouds and whitened them?
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010
Earth clouds :D
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spyro10101 Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010
look at how they swirl, they look more horizontal at the equator but more verticle at the poles FTW?
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010
Yep this is because the moon's atmosphere would most likely be a "super-rotator" like Venus' because of it's slow rotation.
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spyro10101 Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010
if they terraformed the moon already or it was naturally terraformed, the next apollo mission will be a doozy!
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010
I'm not sure what you mean. I don't attach any history to my images.
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spyro10101 Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010
oh well?
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spyro10101 Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2010
if the moon was naturally terraformed then...
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EpsilonEagle Featured By Owner May 22, 2010
This one's even better than the last! It looks great.
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Ittiz Featured By Owner May 22, 2010
download it, it's 10k pixels across :D
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EpsilonEagle Featured By Owner May 22, 2010
That is extremely realistic looking and huge! What program do you use for doing these render anyway?
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Ittiz Featured By Owner May 24, 2010
None, I made it in Photoshop.
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EpsilonEagle Featured By Owner May 24, 2010
Wow, that is incredibly impressive!
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Jareksobinski Featured By Owner May 11, 2010
Seing Luna like this in the night! I can't describe the feeling off our descendants but they will be goddamn lucky.
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Ittiz Featured By Owner May 11, 2010
“May you live in interesting times”
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groovychk Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
nice work :)
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2010
Thanks :D
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psycho-Vinos Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
oh wow!
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2010
:D
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psycho-Vinos Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
XD
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biodome51 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2010
this is way beter because you can actualy see the depth of the atomosphere with the clouds laying above the actual surface and not looking like they are part of the surface
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2010
Thanks, all of my images show the same depth. The difference is the gravity. On the moon the gravity is so low the effect is exaggerated.
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biodome51 Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2010
REALY I HAVENT SEEN IT IN YOUR OTHER WORK AND I WAS MAINLY MEANING THAT THE CLOUDS LOOK LIKE THEY ARE ABOVE GROUND INSTEAD OF LOOKING LIKE THEY ARE ON THE GROUND THAT WAS ALL.
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2010
yep, knew exactly what you meant. :)
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biodome51 Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2010
okay just wanted to clear things up
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WilburMercer Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2010
fly me to the moon :)
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1Wyrmshadow1 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2010
Why so much water?

Also:
Thick atmosphere, mostly water and little mountains, plenty of solar energy= WILD WILD WINDS!

Am I wrong?
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Ittiz Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2010
50% water coverage, but this is the near side which is mostly low plains. So it ends up being more water covered than the far side My other moon images have almost exactly the same amount.
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